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Nick Demos <[log in to unmask]>
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Nick Demos <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:24:51 -0500
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> ...
> > As an interim measure they could have made an
> > announcement that they would allow the latest version of MPE to run
> > on an HP-9000 when sales of the 3000 are disontinued.  This is a
> > no-brainer as the only thing impeding this is an artificial setup
> preventing
> > it now.
>
> There will be no PA-RISC 9000s being sold in the near future.  All
9000s
> will be IA-64 based -- then what?  Boot devices will change in the
near
> term, disks will change, PCI will be obsoleted. Fundamental technology
is
> constantly changing, and we have not and certainly cannot keep up.
1.  You mean Superdome, etc., are soon going away?  In any case the
ability to
run on a 9000 gives MPE a little more life.
2.  How is HP implementing IA-64 for for the 9000.  My understanding is
that
there will be a PA-Risc enulation mode.  Can't MPE at least run in that
mode?
> > This was done to prevent users from using the cheaper 9000 with MPE.
>
> Wrong.
C'mon, Jeff, not wrong.  Why was there such a stink when a vendor sold
9000's as 3000's?  As you say below, the H/W is basically the sme.
  Today, MPE runs on essentially 9000 h/w.  It takes most of our
> R&D lab just to make this a viable option. The 9000 roadmap has left
us
> behind already, and the gap is widening at an exponential rate.
Running
> MPE on a 9000 is not a sustainable option.  But at least a temporary
solution.
>
> > With support for MPE disappering in 2006, it would make no sense to
> > continue this prohbition.  It would give HP 3000 users some
breathing
> > room to consider what they might replace MPE (the 300) with.
>
> By 2006 MPE will not boot on any 9000s being sold regardless of code
in
> MPE to detect 3000 vs. 9000.
>
Then I guess there will be NO 9000 emulation mode?

Regards,

Nick D.

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