In a message dated 95-09-09 16:48:35 EDT, [log in to unmask] (Stan Sieler)
writes:
 
>What the @#$%^ have you been smoking?  :)
>
>Of COURSE "billions of $'s" can be wrong ... and of COURSE the world
>is that stupid.
>
>
 
With all due respect, your posting was ranting and inappropriate and I must
have struck a nerve.
 
You are falling into the 'holier than thou' trap.  All I was suggesting to
you was that going on a 'save the world from itself crusade' is ineffective
and a waste of time.  Market share does not make something great, it makes
something lucrative.  On this we agree.  This is why Win95 is selling
everywhere and this is why I have PCs.
 
I am sorry to burst your bubble but equating HP3000 and Macs is wrong, wrong,
wrong. . .   The HP3000 has nowhere near the market presence of the Mac, and
it never will.  The number of HP3000 sold does not reach the 6 figures, and
sad to say, probably never will.
The Mac never did anything for the 3000, whereas the PC did a lot. More on
this in a minute.
 
I am proud to personally own an HP3000 and to say that I have worked on one
for the last 19 years and expect to be working on one for the next 20 years.
 I am an ardent supporter of the HP3000, and will keep working very hard to
support it, but this does not mean that I must support the underdog every
time.
 
This is what you wrote:
 
>Examples are far too numerous, unfortunately, both in terms of lousy
>products/ideas that become the market winner (IBM mainframes, Unix, PCs,
>soft drinks in cans, tobacco products) and good products that die or limp
>along (HP3000, Burroughs, Amiga, Mac, soft drinks in glass bottles).
 
By extension, one must place Windows95 in your first category.
 
The thread on Windows 95 does indeed belong on HP3000-L.  The survey results
of the Toronto Interex show that 68% of the users have client-server
applications and that 78% plan to acquire Pentium-based PCs in the next 12
months and grow the client-server side of computing.  The Mac numbers are
much, much lower in purchase and I can't find them for C/S (Can one do C/S
computing on a Mac?).  By having a thread on Win95, I am hopeful that more
people will ask questions and use it to build client server applications on
the HP3000 thereby increasing the desirability of the MPE and IMAGE/SQL.  I
am saddened that this offends you.  May I suggest that you skip over any
posting dealing with Win95, Windows, Client/server or anything dealing with
connectivity to the HP3000 from a PC.
 
Let me just say that I strongly believe that if it where not for IMAGE/SQL
and client/server connectivity for MPE, the HP3000 would be simply buried
into legacy (much as I hate that word) applications and in danger of
instinction.  It surely was not the Mac that came to the rescue of the HP3000
and breathed new life in it. The jury is still out on POSIX.
 
As for your last comment, I would never stoop to personal attacks as you did.
 This only comes when one loses an argument (you are arguing, not I) and must
resort to ad hominem attacks.
 
Kind regards,  (And I do mean it, as I have nothing but the highest regard
for all the listers, and you in particular.)
 
Denys. . .