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I have used both I-Will and Adaptec (2945?) cards. Both SE. The adaptec gave
me no trouble at all, using Ctrl-A at boot time to get to their low level
diags and formatting tools. Adaptec also made some combo cards like one with
firewire and digital video in/out combined with scsi i/f , cos you were
going to need all the space you could get, in the days of 500-800mb HDD IDE
drives.
The Iwill card was ok, but had some quirks. Eg their trigger for config was
Ctrl-I, but put it in a Compaq pc chassis, and the Bios, or something down
low, suppressed the ctrl-i at boot time, and you could never get to low
level config.

FYI, I have successfully put LVD scsi drives on SE interfaces and they
worked fine. Never game to try to try HVD drives - too new and $$$ at the
time.
The Seagate web site will explain all the model numbers and their interface
styles. On drives with connectors that are made for Hot swap cases (ie with
all power, data and address lines in one smallish socket), the drive itself
has no knowledge of the interface type- this is decided by the case
fittings. I picked up a bunch of such drives (2gb, or 4.2gb?) once, and
found an adapter for $10 that provided SE i/f, and external addressing on 68
pin , so I could connect to the PC card.

HTH

jp

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Arthur Frank
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:40 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mounting Old SCSI Drives in a PC

Thanks to everyone who responded.  What I was fishing for, was some sort
of idea as to WHAT my drives are (single-ended? narrow? wide? fast? LVD?
HVD?) so I would know what to look for in SCSI cards.  Here's what I
have learned so far:

ST15150N: half-height (1.6 inches), 5 GB, narrow, single-ended, 50-pin
ST34573WD: 1-inch high, 4.5 GB, wide differential, 68-pin
ST34371W: 1-inch high, 4.5 GB, wide single-ended, 68-pin

(Thanks, Jay and Paul!)

Thanks to Stan's web site (http://www.sieler.com/hpdisk.txt) I now have
an idea what these drives are:
C2490AM - SCSI-SE 3.5"  2.0 GB
C3010M1 - SCSI-SE 5.25  2.0 GB

Are these drives narrow?  50-pin?

And finally, are the power connectors on these drives compatible with
the power connectors inside a PC?

Thanks,
Art


> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if it is all possible to install the old SCSI
drives
> > from my HP 3000 in a PC.  If it's possible, what SCSI
> card(s) and cables
> > would be necessary?  This would be for the purpose of completely
> > scrubbing the drives to DoD 5220-22.M specifications, on the
cheap.
> >
> > What kind of drives are they?  Not sure.  I'm not a
> hardware person, at
> > least w.r.t. the 3000.  DSTAT reports the following drives:
>  ST15150N,
> > C2490AM, C3010M1, ST34573WD, ST34371W.
> >
> > Although I won't be doing this operation for at least a
> year, I would
> > like to get an idea of how much this will cost.  If I can't put
the
> > drives in a PC, we'll need to find an HP 3000 application
> that can wipe
> > the drives, or get an outside provider to degauss them (which
isn't
> > preferable, because I would like the drives to be usable
afterward).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Art Frank
> > Manager of Information Systems
> > OHSU Foundation
> > [log in to unmask]
> > (503) 220-8320
> >

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