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Ideally you want to be able to run the terminal emulator in such a way
that the close Windows box isn't shown - we use minisoft and I've never
found a way of doing this.  Reflections,  on  the other hand,  being a
functionally richer product may offer this as an option. 
 
However, the problem isn't just as simple as irratating FREAD errors
being reported on the console.   If the user is in the middle of a long
transaction and decides to shut down their terminal emulator,  it's
possible to leave the database hung or corrupt.  (The problem is that
the shutting down of the terminal emulator also terminates the
applicaiton on the HP at a very low IO level). 

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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Shahan, Ray
Sent: 28 September 2005 17:04
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] VIEW error



Hi all,

        Ok, we found out why the error shows up.  We send all on-line
users' STDLIST to specific trace files per user to be used a research in
the event of an anomaly.  What we found after talking to several users
is that rather than exit the hp application they are running, they
sometimes simply close the Minisoft window via the WINDOWS close box at
the top right of the screen (and yes, our training manual states not to
end apps in this manner).  We could recreate this problem, and verify
that it happened every time.

        Anyway, just wanted to let all who answered my original post
what the problem actually was.  BTW, that we still have folks that get
dropped during a session is now something that our network folks
actually say could be something on their end - go figure.

Have a great week!


Ray Shahan

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From: Shahan, Ray
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: VIEW error

Hi all,

        We're getting an error from VIEW, and can't figure out why we're
getting it.  We have several separate programs that are running their
own form files, and each gets the same error.  

        

        All users are using a PC that's running Minisoft's emulator, and
all of the programs that call VIEW are written in COBOL.  None of the
programs that have run into the problem (that I've checked) have been
modified in months nor has the associated form file been modified
either.

        The folks in tech-ops tell me that they've not done anything to
Minisoft, so I'm stuck.  This just started yesterday (that I'm aware
of), and as far as I know, everything we were running/doing on Tuesday
is the same stuff we were running/doing on Wednesday.


Any ideas out there?




"Internal error: Terminal read failed. (FSERR 32)"




Ray Shahan 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in a pretty and
well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out,
and loudly proclaiming: 

-- WOW!!! What a Ride


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