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Digging into the dark recesses of my mind:

3006 on the display

-----Original Message-----
From: J Dolliver [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:37 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Converting A 7980S to a 7980A for a Classic


I was 3rd shift operator back in the late 70's  for 20 reeel backups myself.
When we had a runaway tape (tape came off the reel) and went to the plastic
hub, I would use a jucyfruit wrapper (foil) to fake the tape drive out to
rewind the tape. Best thing about those 7978 drives were the noise. You
could tell when a rewind was happening and you could count on it getting to
the BOT marker in 2 1/2 minutes. Time for the next mount.

Trivia !

Does anyone remember the switch settings for an HP3000 series 3 tape reload?
The switch register had  15 or 16 switches.



Joe


-------------- Original message from Steve Gray <[log in to unmask]>:
-------------- 


> You forgot the very popular 7974A. It was a dual density (1600/800) bpi
format 
> tape drive. When I was a CE for HP in the '80s, I believe it was the most 
> popular tape drive with my Central Texas customers until the 7980A was 
> introduced. It was much easier to service than the 7970E. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Steve Gray 
> Account Executive 
> Abtech Support 
> 830.232.6066 direct 
> Fax: 830.232.4346 
> Email: [log in to unmask] 
> 
> http://www.abtechsys.com 
> http://www.abtechsupport.com 
> http://www.abtechnetworks.com 
> 
> Your source for UNIX hardware, storage solutions, service. 
> 
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> 
> ________________________________ 
> 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion on behalf of Denys Beauchemin 
> Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 11:13 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Converting A 7980S to a 7980A for a Classic 
> 
> 
> 
> The tape drives numbers where 7970 (1600bpi) lo-boy and hi-bay versions, 
> 7976 (6250, but OEMed from another vendor, expensive to support,) 7978 
> (6250) and 7980(6250, with onboard compression if SX.) 
> 
> Denys 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf

> Of Larry Barnes 
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:42 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Converting A 7980S to a 7980A for a Classic 
> 
> Oh, the memories!!! 
> 
> As the one and only operator, early in my career, I remember receiving a 
> new shipment of tapes from a vendor. I decided to use them that night 
> on our full backup; it generally took 9 tapes. After labeling the tapes 
> I mounted the first one on the 7933e (I think) drive and began the 
> backup. After waiting for a few minutes I saw the reel start to spin so 
> I got up to go get a soda or something. 
> As I stood up I notice the reel begin to rewind, then I saw the job log 
> off??? I reviewed the $stdlist and discovered the backup had aborted 
> because of a tape error. I went over to the tape drive and to my horror 
> I noticed the tape head was covered in what looked like black soot. HP 
> was contacted and they dispatched an engineer to fix the problem. Once 
> on site he looked at the drive head and said the drive head was 
> destroyed by the oxide from the tape. Since it wasn't covered under 
> maintenance we were charged time and material. 
> Turns out the tape manufacturer forgot 1 step in creating the tapes. 
> They forgot to add the mylar coating over the oxide material. The 
> scraper on the drive head scraped the oxide off; giving the tape head 
> that sooty look. 
> The tape manufacturer was contacted, they took back all the tape and 
> sent new ones and they also paid us for the maintenance charge from HP. 
> 
> Oh the memories!!!! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of Jeff Kell 
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:31 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Converting A 7980S to a 7980A for a Classic 
> 
> Johnson, Tracy wrote: 
> 
> > P.S.S. Anyone remember using a tape splicing kit? 
> 
> For analog audio, yes. For digital, no; but that would be a neat trick 
> :-) 
> 
> Very early in my career, I was a 3rd-shift operator at a service bureau, 
> and handled enough 9-track tapes to last a hundred lifetimes. You 
> loaded client files from tape, ran whatever jobs, and dumped their files 
> back to a new tape. 
> 
> Expired tapes went into the scratch tape pool. After "x" number of 
> cycles through manual loading by operators in a hurry the leaders 
> would start to get ragged. You could always snip off the crumpled bits 
> and leave a clean end, but eventually there wasn't enough leader before 
> the BOT marker for it to load. 
> 
> So yes, it was one of the weekly duties of the 3rd-shift operator to 
> take tapes with > x cycles through the library, strip off 20-30 feet or 
> so, and put on a new BOT. 
> 
> But I haven't seen a tape marker dispenser in a *LONG* time :-) 
> 
> Jeff 
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