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John Krussel <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:57:44 -0800
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There used to be a tool by Tymlabs that would allow you to compile "The C
word" code into an executable, that way you could develop on a small box
(read small licensing fee) compile it and then move it to any size box you
wanted.  I don't know what ever happened to the product but I'm sure it
would spark some interests now that licensing costs have gone through the
roof.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Gambrell [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 7:52 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: FW: CSY DIRECT - FEBRUARY 1999
>
> John Dunlop wrote:
> >
> > Ron Burnett wrote:
> >
> > > Great!  Just GREAT!  But only if you can convince third-party 4GL
> > > vendors (no names, no pack-drill) to understand that a hardware
> upgrade
> > > is most likely to cater for an increase in processing volumes, NOT AN
> INCREASE
> > > IN USER NUMBERS.  I have been thwarted by 3rd-party upgrade fees at
> least
> > > four times in the past 6 or 7 years.  Where's the sense in paying
> $30/$40/$50K
> > > for a hardware upgrade only to be faced with $100/$125/$150K 3rd party
> > > license fees?
> >
> > Uh-Oh. I feel a "C" word thread resurfacing! Warning, this thread has
> > been sidelined due to overheating and over-flogging. Still, it is still
> > relevant and you'd think they would have done something about it by now.
> > Oh well.....
>
> Seems to me like a market opportunity for someone to develop porting tools
> that allow the dreaded PH code to be converted to something
> else...(transact,
> speedware, Cobol, you-name-it). [Yes, I know this would be a major expense
> and might incure legal challenges.]
>
> Just compare to development with full Oracle tools, where your similarly
> locked in, but long ago you switch to paying per-user support costs so
> upgrading a platform does not incur "upgrade" charges.  Cognos: learn from
> Oracle and give your customers a direct no-cost even-trade in credit to
> convert to user based licenses instead of charging more, and eliminate the
> platform license.  However, me thinks that Cognos really wants to kill off
> PH, but can't admit it even to itself - reminds me of HP and the 3000 a
> few
> years ago - can we hope there will be a similar change of mind!:-)
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Dunlop
> >
> > E-mail : [log in to unmask]
> > Web  : http://www.hp3000links.com
> > "All your HP3000 resources on the Net"
>
> --
> Richard 'PH expert in another life' Gambrell
> Database Administrator and Consultant to Computing Services
> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, Dept. 4454
> 113 Hunter Hall, 615 McCallie Ave. Chattanooga, TN 37403-2598
> phone: 423-755-4551  fax: 423-755-4025
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