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Oregon, isn't that the state where a any relative can commit you to the
looney bin?  (Or is that Washington?)

I'm surprised the majority political party hasn't taken that tack with
all their Republican relatives?

Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc. 

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> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:08 PM
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> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Ramblin's by a recent political lurker :)
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> Hi Adam, Brice, Wirt, and Others :)
>     Ok... Sorry, Brice but I don't agree with any of you :) 
> but that is the nice thing here in our country ... we don't 
> have to agree and usually don't
> :)
> 
>     I have met Wirt and Val ... and they are definitely good 
> people with excellent taste in restuarants and food :) And I 
> relly do read his posts so that I can learn... I may not 
> agree with him... but he does have that nasty habit of 
> quoting facts and sources :) I can read and decide myself.
> 
>     Politically?   I doubt Wirt and I agree on very much ... 
> come to think
> of it... probably very few people agree with me politically! hehehe
> 
> Now... immgration you don't even want  to hear my suggested 
> practices...
> :)
> 
>     But to give you a fun political one to ponder... I found 
> out recently that there is a move afoot here in Oregon to 
> switch our Primary election from 'closed' to 'open',
> 
>     Our primary elections are closed meaning as a Republican 
> (shocker I know! hehe) I can only vote for Republican 
> candidates if the position is party specific (Judgeships 
> aren't and so on) Democrats can only vote for Democrats... 
> but Libritarians (sp) and other parties can't really vote 
> unless their is one of their candidates is running or 
> something like that... you know the weird concept of equal 
> treatement for all parties...
> :)
> 
>     Now, personally ever since my Dad helped me plan how I 
> would vote the first time I voted I have questioned Oregon's 
> Primary system and fairness... on the General election I can 
> vote for anyone... why not a truly open Primary?  Been asking 
> that one for the last 25 years!
> 
>     Note... the movement here to "open" our primary is not to 
> open it so registered voter could vote for any candidate... 
> but that Libriartiians
> (sp) can vote for any candidate... the rest of the parties 
> supposedly would still remain closed!
> 
>     um... huh?
> 
> Art "just to make ya'All think :) " Bahrs
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> On 6/5/06, Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > 1)  You talk about the 'few' responses on this list.  I
> > claim the political viewpoints posted here are not 'few'
> > and my expressed opinion was not based solely upon the responses in 
> > this thread.
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> > 2)  Can you show me a link where you disagreed with Wirt on some 
> > political subject posted here on this list?  And I don't mean 
> > something trivial like if John Kerry turned his eyes left 
> instead of 
> > right during a debate.
> 
> 0) As a side note, I have the same problem with wrap on your 
> e-mail as I did with Michael's
> 
> 1) Even if the entirety of this list were rabid leftists 
> whose hearts bled so much that they required constant 
> resupply, this would be a microscopic portion and completely 
> unrepresentative sample of the set of "liberals."  Viva Che!
> 
> 2) Sure.  I mentioned my support for the war in Iraq.  That's a pretty
> fundamental difference.    Now I think that I was wrong and the cost
> was disproportionate compared to our benefit, but hindsight 
> is 20-20 and at our liberal parties (we have those you know:) 
> I always get uncomfortably silent when folks talk about GWB's 
> move into Iraq.  In this thread, I was also castigating Denys 
> for what I perceived was misinformation, but read through and 
> you'll see it.  I try not to post just to express my views, 
> but do feel compelled (likely far too often) to express 
> myself when I believe things are being distorted.  In the 
> thread below, you'll also find a theme consistent with my posting
> today-- that I dislike extremists from both sides and have 
> little time for those whose opinions are formulaic rather than cogent.
> 
> (forgive the length of the link and watch for wrap) 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Where+Bush+conspiracy+the
ories+come+from&num=10&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=c
omp.sys.hp.mpe&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1
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3) To preempt the next question, I offer this:  the reason I don't
respond to what I often consider Michael's maniacal rants from the left
is that there are plenty of others on this list who succeed at
expressing my concerns with his posts.

By the by, I've never met Wirt (although he seems like an interesting
guy and I share his love of good Mexican food having grown up in Orange
County, CA).  I'm not sure he's a "liberal", to be honest, but he knows
far better than either of us.

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