I was just perusing through the latest junk mail from HP called: "HP Computer News" (asking me to subscribe for so I can get the "next 6 issues FREE!" Among two things I noticed: 1. No mention of the HP3000 platform. EXCEPT ONE developers toolkit for BSAFE SSL-C security protocol. (Oh yeah, I'm going to go out and buy one right now!) 2. Just as insidious but more practical: Since I spoofed you all with that chip-implant-that-tracks-you the other day that Gavin Scott (IIRC) disproved mightily. I noticed a different article in this magazine on page 30 entitled: "Wherever you go, there you are" that describes a product called BadgePAD. Similar in function to that "other" product mentioned on Monday it lists on Page 31 three things that were similar that it can track: 1) His/her identity 2) His/her location 3) His/her environment (Unlike the bogus GPS transponder of the other product, this item tracks you whenever you plug into the network, to quote: "BadgePAD uses its communications interfaces and the location of the access points it is communicating with to determine its location." Of course one must assume it is on a public network and not a private one. And who compiles the locations of all the "access points" on the network anyway? (I shudder to think who.) ---- Of course being an HP publication, it is probably a lot more reliable than that GPS item of Monday. Tracy M. Johnson TRW Automotive Electronics