I give more weight to the idea of faster, more advanced versions of the PA-RISC architecture than IA-64 on the HP3000. It wouldn't surprise me if we never see an HP3000 based on IA-64 and I'm not so sure that would be a bad thing. Maybe it's not so much a gut feeling as it is a recollection of a recent chip collaboration Motorola-Apple-IBM. The formula seems to have a flaw. If HP can develop a chip that will outperform the IA-64 without the external politics and without giving all the credit to Intel, what's the advantage of building an IA-64 based HP3000? -- Brad Feazell