Earlier today Mark Bixby reported on a check he did on the ECS: > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:59:38 GMT > Server: NCSA/1.4.2 > The NCSA 1.4.2 server is laughably ancient. If they had a clue, > they'd replace it with Apache .... Seems like this is one of those things that would (or at least should ) be so totally embarrassing to HP that they would take some immediate action to address it..... I can see the IBM ad now: "HP claims to be on the leading edge of the Internet... but in practice the razor blade they are using for what they tout as one of their premier services is so old it's rusting to pieces".... See again Mark's above... Ken Sletten