Ted's hunch is right. I have just started three copies of Reflection with a VT connection, and looked at HPUSERCOUNT after each one. HPUSERCOUNT increments immediately after the MPE/IX: prompt is displayed, and before logon. It does, however, decrement HPUSERCOUNT when either a BYE is issued, or the Reflection screen is ungracefully closed down. The same behaviour is true when making a Telnet connection (using QCTerm). I also confirmed this on two systems, with identical results. The Console logon doesn't count. Neil Harvey > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Ashton [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 10:55 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: MPE 6.0 and HPUSERLIMIT > > Thus it was written in the epistle of Keven Miller, > > I have a 918DX on 6.0 ( 8 user license). > > I have developers coming into it with both VT (Reflections) and > Telnet > > (Reflections). > > Currently there are 4 sessions, 1 VT (NSCONTROL STATUS=USERS) and 3 > telnet > > (Oh, and the console -- 5 sessions) > > Currently, from the console as OPERATOR.SYS I showvar HPUSER@ > > HPUSERCOUNT 8 > > HPUSERLIMIT 8 > > And I cannot get another logon. > > > > I will try to test some of this when I can get sole access to the > box. > > But my gut feel here is that something new (telnet) isn't > decrementing the > > HPUSERCOUNT. > > > > Any body else wish to test this? > > > > +===================================== > > Keven Miller KC7LYD > > [log in to unmask] (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA) > > +===================================== > > Keven, > Are there any VT "sessions" sitting at a login prompt but not logged > in? > I don't have any proof, but I've had some strange user limit things > that lead > me to wonder if a termulator running VT and sitting at the login > prompt takes > up a session in the count. (Perhaps it's not VT. Perhaps simply > hitting > return and getting a login prompt takes up a session until the prompt > times > out and Minisoft, in repeatedly renewing the prompt (why they do this, > I'm not > sure) is causing this behaviour to become a problem). > > Ted > -- > Ted Ashton ([log in to unmask]), Info Serv, Southern Adventist > University > ========================================================== > Let us grant that the pursuit of mathematics is a divine madness of > the > human spirit, a refuge from the goading urgency of contingent > happenings. > -- Whitehead, Alfred North