Personally, IMHO, when dealing with any operating system, it is a good idea to learn the editor that comes with the system. While I agree that there are many good editors out there (I personally prefer pico), you can possibly find yourself in a single-user, root disk only mode, where the only editor you have is the default one. With no network, a PC based solution is not going to work. Also, when doing installs, knowing the native one is nice too :-). I have a programmer here who refuses to learn vi. That's fine, and is his decision. Unfortunately, his decision often causes me problems because he uses ftp to upload/download his scripts (often having to go to his computer in another building because it's setup for him to do it automagically). He forgets the simple chmod command and then my operations staff gets that nice "ksh: <filename> cannot execute". Gary L. Paveza, Jr. Technical Support Specialist All opinions are mine and not those of my employer -----Original Message----- From: Joe Geiser [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:24 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: QUAD editor source code anywhere? Jeff Kell says, > But if you must deal with unix, it's hard to avoid vi and/or emacs so > just bite the bullet and get used to it :-) Nope, one does not have to settle for vi or emacs. - if one has a PC, there Qedit for Windows, which handles these file quite well, and in the freeware arena, there's PFC. Joe (who will not use vi if I can avoid it)