I just visited HPs web site at www.hp.com, and the home page has been redesigned again recently. There is a link for "products", at which you find several categories of products. There is a link for "UNIX Enterprise Servers" and all manner of PCs and workstations, but nothing for the HP3000. If you didn't know about HP's business servers and specific URLs, there would be no way to know from their web site that such things exist. Why does HP try so hard to avoid selling 3000's?