FYI all who might still be looking for "better value" at HP World; i.e.: cheaper hotel rooms: After checking around a bit I decided to take a chance on the Pickwick Hotel, at 132 W. Broadway. The free trolley to the convention center stops ~across the street out their back door; plus they are between two of the "official" HP World conference hotels on Broadway: The Westgate and the Wyndham Emerald Plaza (the Pickwick is one block west of the Westgate). This means that besides the trolley it will be easy to catch the Interex shuttle buses making the usual frequent runs between the conference hotels and the convention center. Free airport shuttle with Cloud 9 Shuttle. $50 per night for one. Beats paying $110 at the Westgate or $129 at the Wyndham.... :-) DISCLAIMER: I have never stayed at the Pickwick before. But FWIW, they are at: (619) 234-9200 or (800) 826-0009 . 227 units, 65 channel cable TV, lounge, voicemail & parking. Sounded like they still had quite a few rooms left.. BUT: A lot of other places were full already; and places that were not were in some cases charging more than the rates posted on the sandiego web site, because "August is so busy". $70 per night for one was common..... oh, yeah: The J-Street Inn says they are completely full for the entire run of HP World.... Ken Sletten