Donna: Get a copy of Michael Hensley's "Plug and Play POSIX" (www.allegro.com/papers/pnpposix.txt). Follow especially the tip from Lars Appel and you should be in business. Solved all my problems. John Burke e-mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Donna Garverick [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:31 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: more shell joy (not) yup - it's monday... there must be another shell configuration that i'm missing. if a non-pm person tries to do 'man....' inside the shell they get told: shell/iX> man tobyte man: more -A -s: Package not installed shell/iX> this is how hpbin is set-up (appears to be standard): GROUP: HPBIN.SYS DISC SPACE: 99296(SECTORS) PASSWORD: ** CPU TIME : 0(SECONDS) SECURITY--READ : ANY CONNECT TIME: 0(MINUTES) WRITE : DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED APPEND : CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED LOCK : CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED EXECUTE : ANY PRIV VOL : NO SAVE : FILE UFID: $055F0001 $2F8B2314 $001026BE $5F030845 $029ACD3B MOUNT REF CNT: n/a HOME VOL SET : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET CAP: BA,IA,PM,MR,DS,PH we'll not even discuss *why* write, append, etc have *no* access defined (shouldn't it at least be 'gu'?), nor will we discuss *why* the permissions for /bin are 777 <sigh> so, does someone know how to fix this? - d -- Donna Garverick Sr. System Programmer 925-210-6631 [log in to unmask] >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<<