Ok - I checked we have 4 copies for sale ... contact [log in to unmask], the price is $49.95 US. I have called Marguerite to tell her about this thread ... and see what she might have in stock ... it is probably time for an update of the Handbook ... Adager was a big contributor (along with Robelle) - maybe they along with Stan and Jon Bale could be persuaded to add some info on Jumbo datasets, the BTrees etc... I could voulunteer our team to do a chapter on ODBC access to Image/SQL ... Cheers, Birket Birket Foster M. B. Foster Associates .. the 1-800-ANSWERS people! (613) 448-2333 or (613) 448-2588 (FAX) (Thanks for your support of our 32bit DataExpress ODBCLink Driver)