At my previous company, the only time I had seen the 3K crash was when it lost LDEV 1. I know of no major system that really tolerates losing the drive(s) that contain the OS, at least not for long. Here, we have seen a party who must remain nameless crash our 3Ks by: using a file transfer that does stuff it shouldn't; copying all data the data group to another group (in spite of having archive utilities available) with a third party utility, consuming all available space, leaving a corrupt NM KSAM file, then trying to purge that file; and a few other interesting things. Suffice it to say that I regard these events as abnormal in the extreme; it's the hardware that I expect to see go bad. > ---------- > From: Denys Beauchemin[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 1998 2:13 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Express 4 power patch (Official answer) > <snip> > It would be interesting to see if it would be possible to have > something > similar on MPE for the cases when you lose LDEV1. Granted MPE is more > robust than NT, but hardware can and does go bad. <snip>