I'm starting to bang my head on this one a bit, even with all the fine information I was given. I have a couple problems trying to figure this out, DBDUMP isn't working, and I don't have my notes from 9 years ago when I first figured this out. Can someone tell me how many bytes the DSCB is per set and at what bytes the CAP, MAX CAP, and INCR AMT are located, and how long those items are? I'm sure they are 32 bit integers, but just want to make sure. Anyone that answers, next time your in the Disneyland area of california, I'll buy you lunch :). thanks, shawn