I just update my system w/ express 3 and several manual patches via Patch/ix and I'm trying to test the LISTF file access parms. They are not there. Is there something I don't know or did I do something wrong? Thanks, John John J. Archer (MY VIEWS, NOT MY EMPLOYER'S) ph:(330) 798-2190 IBM Global Services (for General Tire) fx:(330) 798-3912 One General St. Akron, Oh. 44329 E-Mail: john [log in to unmask]