Hi Jim, Have you ever thot of sacrificing Small Furry Animals?? hehehe Seriously tho... My 957 only goes to Shut 6 about 70% of the time... I give it 5 minutes at either Shut 4 or Shut 5 (If there is such a thing I ain't never seen it!) and then do the power off or whatever else I need/planned to do :) Art "Not a USPS employee but somedays wish I was??? " Bahrs >>> James Trudeau <[log in to unmask]> 11/18/97 02:43am >>> Howdy, Inflect a bit of irritation here. So why does it take this 987 (192 MB mem, 16 GB disc, 4 DTC's, 16 printers, misc other stuff ) take better'n 15 minutes to go from Shut 4 to Shut 6 (usually has a sysabort before reaching shut6) ? Jim (it's four ayem and i'm getting hostile) Trudeau amendment: just crashed. system abort 653 from subsys 143. secondary status info = -31, subsys = 107 system halt 7, $028D Took close to 20 minutes. MPE/iX is 5.0.5. I'm still hostile.