| P.S. Any suggestions for what to do with those two programmers?? We have | the noose strung over the tree and would proceed but unfortunately Iowa | does not permit capital punishment yet! Maybe take your guys and move across town? <soapbox alert> We have had some discussion on the '3000-L about how to attract and keep good employees. It sounds like your system is underpowered all around. In the late 90's only programmer drones wouldn't chafe at those conditions. It seems to me to be penny wise and pound foolish to have to constantly run your system so near (I'd say over) it's performance limits. Such situations speak to me either of financial distress or incompetent management. The message gets "heard" by every user every time they log on.