Received: from MQG-SMTP3.USMC.MIL (192.156.78.41) by grant.k12.ca.us with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:57:12 -0800 Received: by MQG-SMTP3.USMC.MIL; Fri, 10 Oct 97 18:56:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 18:52:53 -24000 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: <[log in to unmask]> From: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Undeliverable Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: <[log in to unmask]> Cc: Subject: Re: Job Opening Message not delivered to recipients below. Press F1 for help with VNM error codes. VNM3043: CPL ANTHONY P ARNONE@DPI@MCI VNM3043 -- MAILBOX IS FULL The message cannot be delivered because the recipient's mailbox contains the maximum number of messages, as set by the system administrator. The recipient must delete some messages before any other messages can be delivered. The maximum message limit for a user's mailbox is 10,000. The default message limit is 1000 messages. Administrators can set message limits using the Mailbox Settings function available in the Manage User menu (MUSER). When a user's mailbox reaches the limit, the user must delete some of the messages before the mailbox can accept any more incoming messages. ---------------------- Original Message Follows ----------------------Gary Jackson wrote: > > >[Not trying to pick on anyone; this is for my own edification] > > > ><<Information Systems team at public school district in Sacramento, > >California, is expanding -- needs to add someone with HP-3000 system > >management, hardware/software support, and staff development/training > >skills. > > > >Position = Computer Systems Specialist (#201204) > > > >Salary = $2,393-$3,209 per month (plus paid holidays, vacation, sick > >leave, and comprehensive medical/dental/vision/life insurance package).>> > > > > > >These numbers sound incredibly low; am I that out of touch with reality? > >Or our school systems really at that much of a disadvantage competing for > >talent? > > > >Steve > > > > I can't tell from here in regards to your relationship to reality. But I > can tell you that depending on the article you read, California ranks either > last or at least in the bottom 1/3 in the spending per pupil. And I am > pretty sure it costs a bit more to run a school in Sacramento than it does > in Montana or Mississipi. > > Gary Jackson > Nevada CSOS > (916) 478-6407 - voice > (916) 478-6410 - fax I'm afraid that the answer in many cases is *yes* our school systems really are at a financial disadvantage when it comes to competing for talent. Datamation's annual salary survey, along with other similar surveys, consistently show public education having lower salaries for comparable jobs than other industries. I suspect many of my peers (I.S. Directors at public school organizations) throughout California have motives similar to mine: a desire to help improve the opportunities for our youth to get a quality education. Helping work towards this goal, in my case, often involves long hours at a relatively low salary, with relatively few technical support staff to try to get the job done. You also need to keep in mind that public school benefits packages, including retirement/vacation/medical/etc., are often worth $8-10,000 per year. In California we have a "95/5 Initiative" that will limit the a school district's "administrative" costs (including information systems, in most instances) to a maximum of 5% of the total budget. If this passes it could cause even further reductions in the money available for IS salaries.