Fellow Listers, I've been following the latest thread about PINs and PIDs and while trying the suggested solutions I stumbled upon the following: shell/iX> date Tue Oct 7 13:30:46 PDT 1997 shell/iX> ps -e ps: not found shell/iX> shell/iX> /SYS/HPBIN/PS PID TTY TIME COMMAND 8257668 ldev9 0:00 PS.HPBIN.SYS 5439653 ldev9 0:00 SH.HPBIN.SYS info=-L 6684911 ldev9 0:00 JSMAIN.PUB.SYS 6488487 ldev9 0:06 CI.PUB.SYS shell/iX> Any Ideas why 'ps -e' did not work? The current aliases are: shell/iX> alias stop="kill -STOP" listgroup="callci listgroup" df="callci discfree d" nohup="nohup " integer="typeset -i" history="fc -l" h="fc -l" functions="typeset -f" listuser="callci listuser" copy="callci copy" listf="callci listfile" suspend="stop \$\$" r="fc -s" hash="alias -t" shell/iX> Regards Paul H. Christidis