Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Apologies in advance. Denys, I know you don't like Computerworld, but you'll likely be seeing this quote for quite some time to come. The article at <http://www.computerworld.com/news/970730javah.html> talks about MS declaring war of Java (no news there), so they will not ship Java Foundation Classes. Steve Ballmer, MS EVP of Sales and Support, says, "[Sun] is trying to turn the JFCs into the Sun operating system." Here's the good part. Paul Maritz, MS Group VP, said "We have no intention of shipping another bloated operating system and forcing that down the throats of our Windows customers." Good thing he said "another." ;) --Glenn Cole Software al dente, Inc. [log in to unmask]