Alfredo after Nick after Joe: >> HP HAS TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP POSITION. > I could not agree more: HP HAS TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP > POSITION. Seems like that is a missing link in HP's current "customer focused" strategy. There are some things that can't (or at least shouldn't) wait until they bubble to the top of one or another of the SIG enhancement lists. ... And I can just hear some of the HP managers saying "those darn users; first they say they want us to listen to them and now we're doing that and now they say that's not enough. There's no satisfying these people !!". Mea culpa; it's true: HP 3000 users have high standards. ... Nobody said being world-class was going to be easy.. ;-) Ken Sletten