[This message has been sent to sigsysman-l and hp3000-l] They're back! By popular demand... maybe. If there is sufficient interest -- usually 25 - 35 people per meeting -- I would very much like to organize quarterly SIGSYSMAN meetings in the San Francisco Bay Area again. These meetings, which began in 1984 and ran until 1994 (when I ran out of gas) seemed to be quite popular. I know I always learned something useful, which is why I would like to resurrect them. An agenda for a typical meeting: Morning - information sharing among System Managers, advocacy issues to be conveyed to (usually) HP Afternoon - technical presentation, question and answer session These days, since most shops are heterogenous, I suggest the technical scope of these meetings be an HP3000-centric approach to managing technical issues in the data center. Therefore, HP-UX, Windows/NT, NetWare, etc. as well as networking issues are valid topics. As always, however, I poll the group of interested System Managers for topics of interest and do my best to find an appropriate speaker. If you are interested in attending SIGSYSMAN meetings in the San Francisco Bay Area, please reply via e-mail to me ([log in to unmask]). If I get enough responses, we should be able to meet by the end of the year. (I already have my first volunteer to host a meeting!) And if you think there is sufficient interest in an area outside San Francisco, I now travel around the U.S. quite a bit and may be able to arrange my schedule to coordinate meetings in other areas of the country. -Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Hirsh Automated Computing Environments, LLC [log in to unmask] 1563 Solano Avenue #154 tel +1 510 528 4980 Berkeley, CA 94707 USA fax +1 510 528 1737 http://www.acellc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------