Larry Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >On 2 Aug 96 at 23:03, Ron Seybold wrote: > >> Let me understand this: Oracle, trying to deliver half of the stated >> 100-user goal, needs two processors and gobs of memory? >> >> It's a real testament to marketing. What else could be selling such a >> substandard solution? > >I thought about adding something to this when I read the original post >last week. I'm not an 'Oracle over IMAGE' evangelist. I believe IMAGE >is one of the best, if not the best, database system every designed for >OLTP. > >However, I have seen *very* poor database designs even in IMAGE. As >Wirt has pointed out, and I agree (and paraphrase), "Anybody can >design a poor database using any database system including IMAGE." I've >seen a simple POS system that requires more than 800 TurboImage calls >for a single 5 line item order. And this application continues to run >today! It requires a 969/200 to support a little over 2,000 >orders per day. It actually comes to about 5 orders per minute, with >25 total line items per minute! > >Now, I believe a well designed IMAGE database will generally out run a >well designed *anything* database, but one example that is not clearly >laid out does not automatically make a database system bad. All of this is certainly magnificent, Larry. Nevertheless: I'm still waiting for information regarding the cost of an Oracle installation that supports 100 users :-) So far, I have heard of 50 users, even 60 users for Oracle (on pretty impressive -- and expensive -- hardware). Not a peep regarding the cost of Oracle itself, of course. Meanwhile, HP3000 customers continue to provide examples of HUNDREDS of concurrent users on a boring operating system such as MPE with a boring database system such as IMAGE ("boring", according to authorities such as stock analysts). Will I ever get a straight answer regarding Oracle? +---------------+ | | | r | Alfredo [log in to unmask] | e | http://www.adager.com | g | F. Alfredo Rego Tel 208 726-9100 | a | Manager, Theoretical Group Fax 208 726-2822 | d | Adager Corporation | A | Sun Valley, Idaho 83353-3000 U.S.A. | | +---------------+