Folks - Just another remider that there is a RFD (Request For Discussion) on the topic of creating a new group under the comp.sys.hp heirarchy called comp.sys.hp.marketplace along the lines of other comp.sys.<foo>.marketplace groups. Please give it a look see and provide your feedback pro/con etc to the thread in news.groups. rick jones In case the base note for that thread has expired on your news server, I have reproduced the RFD below. Please remember though that comments are supposed to be posted to news.groups. From: Rick Jones <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RFC: comp.sys.hp.marketplace Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp. sys.hp.hpux,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.jobs.offered REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.sys.hp.marketplace Newsgroup line: comp.sys.hp.marketplace HP-specific, forsale, wanted & job postings. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.hp.marketplace. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. RATIONALE: comp.sys.hp.marketplace There is no Hewlett-Packard specific group in which marketplace posts are appropriate. misc.forsale.computers.workstation is not HP-specific. comp.sys.hp.hardware is for discussion of hardware issues, not commerce; unfortunately, the name comp.sys.hp.hardware makes it appear to be the least inappropriate group for HP-specific hardware commerce and inappropriate posts appear there frequently. A similar situation exists with respect to jobs offered postings and other comp.sys.hp.* groups. A group dedicated to HP-specific marketplace posts would concentrate these posts for the benefit of those who are interested and reduce them in inappropriate groups. The name of the proposed group is chosen to match the existing comp.sys.hp.* and *.marketplace newsgroups. CHARTER: comp.sys.hp.marketplace comp.sys.hp.marketplace is an unmoderated group for "for sale", "wanted to buy" and jobs offered/sought postings specific to Hewlett-Packard systems. Commercial and/or continuing advertising is acceptable with the restriction that continuing posts must not appear with a frequency greater than once per calendar month. Postings about equipment, services and jobs unrelated to Hewlett-Packard systems are not welcome. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.sys.hp.misc comp.sys.hp.hardware comp.sys.hp.hpux misc.forsale.computers.workstation misc.jobs.offered Proponent: Rick Jones <[log in to unmask]>