Evan first and then a couple other people said ~~: >I just received a mailing from HP's "Twin Cities Fulfillment Center" >containing the HP3000 Web Server Solutions Guide -- did anyone else out >there receive it? >The package also included a 4-page case study of 3K Associates use of a 3000 >based web server. Way to go Chris! Me too got one. And I was impressed..... In fact this is IMHO a fairly fascinating document, and not just because it presents the 3000 as a WWW server. I would suggest that all who care about the future of the 3000 might at least scan this Solutions Guide, even if they have no current plans to implement a WWW server. A few quotes from the subject guide: "The WWW and HP 3000 are both built upon an open systems foundation........" "The HP 300's strengths in high availability, resiliency, and best in class performance provides everything needed to build a solution to prosper in the new information society." "HP 3000 WWW solutions are unmatched in delivering best-in-class solutions that meet the rigorous demands of the 24 x 7, interactive, multimedia, database-driven WWW interface." "The HP 3000 offers superior flexibility in meeting customers' WWW needs. The entire HP 3000 product family is WWW-ready." "As companies begin to build WWW solutions, .......... .......... traditional strengths of the HP 3000 family; high- performance, scalability, reliability, and availability, will make the HP 3000 an obvious choice." Great stuff...... "....... allows web sites to link to Image/SQL databases (as well as Allbase/SQL, KSAM, Oracle, Sybase, and Informix) to create a dynamic web site." HP actually dared to list Image/SQL first, and then Oracle, et. al. under "as well as"..... "Open Market WWW applications include Webserver, Secure WebServer, Merchant Server, and Authentication Server. The WebServer .... available .... April and the Secure WebServer .... in the second half of 1996. The Merchant and Authentication Servers should be available .... in 1997". First time I've seen specifics about the Merchant and Authentication Servers.... In short, this is a good job of selling sushi as sushi, and not raw fish..... It almost looks like HP marketing might have undergone some kind of positive transformation... But I wonder: (1) Did this mailing go only to the installed base ??..... I hope not (although I fear that may be the case)..... Surely this would be an ideal thing to send to a good prospect list of IBM, DEC, and etc. users. I.e.: potential NEW 3000 customers... (2) In one of the separate flyers that was included with the Guide, it says that the Open Market Web Server is "20 percent Faster Than Freeware HTTPD".... Why does is only say 20 percent ??.... I thought some of the prelim results that were posted to 3000-L awhile ago indicated the performance improvement was like >= 300-400 percent. ...... Chris Bartram must be :-) from the good PR he got..... But note that in a separate post Chris also said: ><flame on> >When is someone at HP gonna pick up the already-in-progress port of named >that John Sullivan started long ago? Named should be a supported tool on >every 3000 if they're gonna "co-exist" with the rest of the world; and from >what I remember, John was close to getting it working, but hit a couple >(2?) areas that would require HP to look into anyway. I've never succeeded >in getting anyone from HP to even LOOK at it... ><flame off> *sigh* I throw another log on Chris' fire. This seems to be another case where the 3000 is tantalizingly close, but still missing a couple key pieces. With all the good PR from the subject Solutions Guide, if when asked HP has to say "Oh, but you need to install a separate NT or HP-UX box to get named", that doesn't fly. Our site has already been through the "disappearing DOS DTC files; PC didn't come back up after power fail, etc." experience with DTC Openview Manager. In the real world, having to go through the hassle of getting approval, buying, installing, supporting, and running a separate box for *anything* is something to be avoided if possible (when MPE/iX online config is available, we will probably retire DTC Openview Manager and get rid of that PC). Hello HP Nicole & Co. ??.... How about that named port ?? Ken Sletten