Slightly off of the 3000-L topic: I have a MacIntosh friend (drenke @gnt.net) who is interested in learning JAVA. <<HISTORY ON>> My Friend, Dave, is a former F15 squadron commander. 10 years ago, he was diagnosed as having ALS (Lou Gerhig's Disease). Currently, Dave is on a respirator for life support and is only able to move his top lip and right eyebrow. Dave uses a program on his Mac called KEENX(SP?) which detects movements of a switch hooked to his eyebrow to allow him to choose keystrokes and mouse movements. The result of this is that last month, after 8 years of silence Dave was able to begin using Netscape and Eudora to communicate with the world. Many people, when they see Dave out in his wheelchair and attached life support equipment, talk about him, not to him. They don't realize that ALS attacks the body, not the mind. Dave has a $2 Million education and flew a $30 million airplane for 12 years. He was already very intelligent. After lying on his back and thinking for 8 years, he has become brilliant. <<HISTORY OFF>> A few weeks ago, after I got his Mac talking to Netscape, etc, I began to tell Dave about JAVA, some of the discussions which have taken place on this list, and the implications of JAVA and the Web on commerce and communication. Dave has a very unique perspective with which to view electronic commerce in general and communications in specific. Now back to my leadin statement. Dave wants to learn JAVA development on his Mac. Could someone on this list recommend a good JAVA development package which is Mac based. Also, what about a reference text which is CD based. (If he reads a manual, it has to be placed on a stand over his bed and someone has to turn the pages for him. With KEENX, he can turn the "pages" of a CD himself). Thanks in advance for the bandwidth. I know this is not 3000 related, but there have been a lot of comments about JAVA, so I figured that someone out there might have a good recommendation. Joe -- Joe Howell, HIS COmpany 904-678-3238 PO Box 74 904-678-7378 Valparaiso ("The Valley Of Paradise"), Florida, USA 32580