I saw a mention in yesterday's digest about MicroFocus COBOL being good for cross-platform development (in the context of HP3000, HP9000, and more). I learned just moments ago from the Acrobat document <http://devtools.apple.com/cs/C-S_Brochure.pdf> that MF COBOL also runs on the Mac, as do PowerBuilder, PowerPlay, and SAP R/3 Client. (PeopleSoft is working on porting their wares.) Not too bad for a "toy." <plug> Incidentally, I also found that INTERSOLV (1-800-547-4000, 301-838-5000) provides all kinds of ODBC drivers. They mention explicitly on their web page (start at <http://www.intersolv.com/>) that they provide connection for Macs (and PCs) to Allbase, Image/SQL, Oracle, etc. Mind you, I haven't had experience with their products, but they appear to fill a need that has previously been mentioned here. </plug> --Glenn Cole Software al dente, Inc. [log in to unmask]