Stan writes: > However, I claim that using PM (or any product using PM (MPEX!)) is > not valid in considering an answer to the question. Why? Because with PM, > I could arrange it that any command could be done by any user, so all answers > would be valid ... which isn't very interesting! Yawn. In this case I find Stan's argument less than compelling. The :SAVE command does not check the creator id. Therefore, :SAVE will happily save a file regardless of who created it. In the past, this was almost certainly the user who created it, because :SAVE only operates on TEMPORARY files which are job/session local. These days, it is perfectly reasonable to have TEMP files which were created by a different user ID. G.