If worse comes to worst, I can offer a clue (is it a <plug> if I don't use the product myself?)... Software Research Northwest has a product called WingSpan which is based heavily on curses (developed for the 3000, but works on DOS and Un*x too) and they have an add-on which converts VPLUS (VIEW) to WingSpan. For info try http://www.srn.com but their pages don't list this particular add-on product (I guess they still sell it?). Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>