In article <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] (Doug Johnson) wrote: [snip] > PS. I did the 5.0 upgrade three weeks ago and am now waiting on my > THIRD patch tape to correct various problems. ALL the patches were > available when I did the upgrade and a week prior to the upgrade > I requested and received a Power Patch with susbsys just to avoid > this problem. Am I an exception or another slightly dissatisfied > customer > You're not an exception. Before upgrading a couple weeks ago, we *made sure* we had all the most up-to-date patches, etc. However, we find today a number of "ghost" VT sessions that show SYS ownership and cannot be cleared without a reboot. HP is sending a patch to us. I had this exact problem under MPE/iX 4.0 and got a patch for it then as well. Now the problem has reappeared under 5.0! Doesn't HP roll previous patches into their newest releases? Anyway, I'm mildly miffed, but not really dissatisfied. The 5.0 release has performed quite well, aside from this VT problem. Overall, I'd say "Great job HP!" Cheers Barry Lake "If you're not on the edge you're taking up too much space"