Before I jump up on my soapbox (and possibly fall off), I want to make sure I ve got my facts straight. I am not very knowledgeable about DCE (Distributed Computing Environment) so it may be just ignorance on my part (no jokes, please), but we need it on our HP 3000 to run a special product from Speedware. I found out from HP Response Center that DCE/3000 is a separate product (not part of FOS) and available for MPE/iX 5.0. I don t have a product number or price (we have a 987/100 so if the price is tier based we re in trouble). I understand that DCE/9000 Executive is included with HP-UX 10.0. To quote the HP literature: All licenses of HP-UX version 10 include TCP/IP, ARPA Services, NFS, NCS, DCE/9000 Executive, XTI over TCP/IP, and STREAMS/9000 . You can probably see where I m going with this. In my mind this is similar to getting ARPA Services to be included in MPE/iX. If I remember correctly, one of the arguments given to HP to include ARPA Services in MPE/iX was because it was included in HP-UX. Let me know if my take on DCE/3000 is correct. If I do jump up on my soapbox, I would advocate having MPE/iX include any software that is included in HP-UX that makes the HP-UX an open system. -- +---------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Jim Royce | S.R.J.C. | |Mgr, Systems & Programming [log in to unmask] | |Santa Rosa Junior College | Voice: (707) 527-4428 | |1501 Mendocino Avenue | Fax: (707) 524-1542 | |Santa Rosa, CA 95401 USA | | +---------------------------+-----------------------------+