Hmmm... I guess kill is pretty much dead: shell/iX> kill -s SIGHUP 6619582 kill: "SIGHUP" not a valid signal kill: Usage: kill -l [status] kill [-s SIGNAL] job ... shell/iX> kill -s sighup 6619582 kill: "sighup" not a valid signal kill: Usage: kill -l [status] kill [-s SIGNAL] job ... shell/iX>kill -1 6619582 kill: 6619582: Operation not permitted The man page says signal names are permitted. And I can't signal a process even as manager.sys (case above). What's the deal? [\] Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>