You know, I'm not a C programmer, and I don't know if I ever will be, but Jim Wowchuk makes some excellent points about the future openness of the 3000. If HP is truly on the 'open bandwagon', we, and the vendors, need all the tools they can get. This is one vote for migrating the UX C++ compiler and SoftBench to the 3000. To borrow a phrase from an oft-repeated Mervyn's (department store) ad: open, open open! I know the thoughts expressed here are my own because no one else would claim them! Don Harrington [log in to unmask] Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Phone: 206-931-4457 PO Box 3707 MS 5J-34 FAX: 206-931-2325 Seattle, WA 98124-2207