Robert Apgood complained about advertising / product news on this group, but Don Harrington wants the info. I would favour vendors' bug fix and latest patch info being on the newsgroup, but would be concerned if the newsgroup became an advertising forum rather than a technical one. (My e-mail provider charges a fee for every incoming message I receive from the Internet !). Hewlett-Packard have a forum / mail service which includes a "New Products" digest. That is where I believe their advertising / product info should reside. Their address is [log in to unmask] To join the mail list, send it an e-mail containing the message :- subscribe new_products To see all the mailing lists, send it an e-mail containing the message :- send mail_list My opinion only......etc..etc. Joe Farrell Airmotive Ireland Phone +353-1-4588333 Fax +353-1-4588453