Chris wrote: [.....SNIP.....] >We're looking at Facade from Performance Software Group. 703 471-0076. It >does the same thing (let's you edit HP files on a PC) but is much more robust >and polished. We have a late beta and haven't done a lot of testing, but it >seems to work fine. They haven't quoted a "real" price yet, but their >preliminary pricing was much closer to mainframe prices than PC prices. We don't have Facade (at least not yet), but did get a fairly in-depth demo at the PSG booth in Denver. Was impressed with Facade's features and attention to detail; looked like they did a good job...... Will also note that before HP came out with NM Transact/iX, we ran PSG's CM FASTRAN product successfully for years; we always got great support from their technical staff... Could actually call them up and get to talk directly to the programmers if you had a question or problem....... The good old days......... ......... In fairness to HP suppose it could be said that this discussion group serves as a way to talk to programmers at the HP Labs; at least the ones who lurk on 3000-L..... Ken Sletten