I downloaded ryder from http://jazz.external.hp.com/ and installed it into our mpe/ix 5.0 (RELEASE: X.50.20 MPE/iX HP31900 B.76.22 USER VERSION: X.50.20) with success. I put the program (with PM) into a group which has PM capabilities and started shell/ix. Ryder seemed to work fine, but when I tried to make an archive of a non-accessed TurboImage database, got an error msg: Loading truck 'ARCHIVE': FCODE SIZE EOF LIMIT ACCESS FILENAME A privileged file code violation occurred. (FILE OPEN ERROR -463) File System message 463 Skipping 'DBXYZ'. etc. The command which I used was: shell/ix>/ACCT/GROUP/RYDER -c ARCHIVE DBXYZ* Should I expect ryder to work with PRIV files? Thanks in advance, -- Tuukka Kirveskoski