Come on now JIM.. If you read what Paul is saying it makes sense and it makes sense to me as I am one of the certified pros. I needed reinstatement for some of the work I do with my clients. Even if my certs are not "active" the documents do represent me in a different way. As for Paul making a profit... I think you are being nasty. Paul is a true die hard HP3000 professional. HP killed all means of training, Paul got HP to re-kindle the training but gave it to Paul. There is no real money in it, just a passion to keep the torch lit.. So get off your soapbox and rant somewhere else. take it from me "I rant enough for everyone". Joe -------------- Original message from Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>: -------------- > Of all the replies I've received, yours is the SOLE > response supporting the cert. > > And imagine..........hmmmmm, you also are someone who > can potentially PROFIT from someone ridicuously > pursuing a certificiation in a DEAD career direction. > > I could go on with more rhetoric, but its not worth > it, you know and realize the TRUE value in someone > certifying with MPE. > > --- Paul Edwards wrote: > > > Your comments show that you don't understand the > > details of this situation. > > If you don't have the MPE/iX certifications, you > > can't get them now. Only > > the people who received the certifications > > originally, are affected by this > > program because their certifications are restored as > > "inactive". That means > > we can now have access again to the HP Certified > > Professionals web site. > > There, we are encouraged to obtain additional > > certifications on other > > disciplines. > > > > There will be loss of HP3000 professionals > > continually over the next few > > years. This means those HP3000 customers who wait to > > migrate for a few years > > won't have the talent pool to choose from for help > > in their migration > > projects. It will be important for these customers > > to be able to find > > certified HP3000 professionals who have the proper > > technical skills to > > assist them in their future migrations. There are > > still a large number of > > small and medium sized customers who have made the > > choice to homestead for > > some time in the future. > > > > MPE-Education.Com has been contacted by several > > companies who have expressed > > interest in MPE training and some have been invoiced > > for the MPE/iX > > Fundamentals class in November. > > > > > > > *************************************************************** > > CDR Paul Edwards USNR Ret. HP 3000/9000 > > Certified Consultant > > Paul Edwards & Associates Phone: (972) > > 242-6660 > > 1506 Estates Way Fax : (972) > > 446-9022 > > Carrollton TX 75006 Cel : (214) > > 384-8728 > > Email: [log in to unmask] Web : > > www.peassoc.com > > > *************************************************************** > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OpenMPE Support Group > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim > > Chance > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:38 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] MPE Certification > > Announcement > > > > I a 22 yr. IT guy with 16 yrs. HP3k and personally I > > don't know why anyone > > would want to pursue or care about this particular > > cert. Just my opinion. As > > much as I hate it, the HP3k market, shops, places > > with it fully running > > production, conferences/workshops, new sales, new > > ERP on that platform, and > > technical knowledge is DEAD or quickly DYING. When > > will folks realize this? > > Turnover to other platforms and skills is at an all > > time high. Universities > > and corporations are de-commissioning there boxes at > > an astounding rate. How > > do I know this, by being a contractor since 1997. I > > could go on and on about > > this trend. I asked......who was it, I forget, but > > some vendor who puts on > > training to become MPE cert isn't getting ANY paying > > students, none. So why > > does the board or anyone else lobby for something > > that frankly - and > > realistically, just plan out isn't in "demand"? I > > appreciate efforts, but > > really? I can think of a dozen former and/or > > dwindling HP3k guys who are now > > pursuing MS cert's; there is no way they'd want to > > spend $ or time on > > certifying as MPE. > > > > Hmmmmm. > > > > --- donna hofmeister > > wrote: > > > > > The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to > > announce that HP has > > > agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified > > MPE/iX System > > > Administrators and Presales Professionals. This > > effort, led by Board > > > member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is > > possible even when the > > > odds seem insurmountable! > > > > > > The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for > > the tests to be > > > re-administered so that certificate holders can > > regain their active > > > status and people wishing to document their > > knowledge of MPE can > > > achieve certification. > > > > > > If you'd like to read more about this, please > > visit: > > > > > > http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html > > > > > > If MPE certification is important to you, please > > speak out to let HP > > > know that you want it! > > > > > > For the Board of Directors, > > > > > > Donna Hofmeister > > > Secretary > > > > > > Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer > > dgarverick -at- longs > > > -dot- com > > > 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores > > > > > > >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<< > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? 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