Boys, Boys ! I really think you should take this mud-slinging offline now. It really has no place on this list, in my opinion. I suggest you guys get together at dawn somewhere and have it out with handbags at ten paces. :o) Cheers, John Dunlop ---- Message sent via Totalise Webmail - http://www.totalise.co.uk Up to 2Mb Broadband now from just £11.99 a month * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *