Rather, what it shrieks to those who choose to hear is that the reason the UN remains ineffective is that it possesses no independent means of enforcing the laws which the states of the world have formulated and agreed to abide by, but whose rulers refrain from upholding when inconvenient for themselves. This is an ancient conflict of interest which is, if not intractable, is at the very best only amenable to slow and incremental resolution. ----------------------- What makes you think that if the UN had the enforcement power you suggest, that anthing would be better? What would prevent any country with enough influence from seeing the laws selectively enforced? I certianly do not want to see an organization as corrupt as the UN has been shown to be having any enforcement authority at all. I do not want representatives from dictatorships or communist countries having any say over what happens in this country, or by inferance, having any say about what happens in any country where there is consent of the governed. * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *