On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:37:12 -0400, Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Brice, > >as much as I know (am not perfect at least not 100%) there was >automatically given and granted the citizenship. >However that wasn't the problem. >The problem was that they were 100% eligible for retirement, health and un- >employment. >They didn't pay 1 cent into any of this but all of a sudden they are >eligible. >As much as I recall none of the South or Middle Americans can come and >collect a retirement that they never paid for. In Germany, it was possible. >If somebody crosses the border at night and says that he was a doctor or >engineer, would ge get the unemployment and retirement values? >I had co-workers that came from Romania, there parents got full retirement, >they got language classes for all and job-training. They got low-interest >loans and within being 3-5yrs in Germany they were building 2-family houses >worth half-million. >Don't recall that ever happening in California. >BTW, Arnold does not support GWB on every issue but there is a big support >as they are in the same party and Arnold worked/helped Bush-senior. > >Michael > >---------------------- > > >Here is the part I want you to take official notice of - > >The problem was that they were 100% eligible for retirement, health and un- >employment. >They didn't pay 1 cent into any of this but all of a sudden they are >eligible. > >This is a distinction without a difference. As far as retirement, I >believe illegals are eligible for social security, but since that is >spread out over the whole USA, it is not a great a burden. > >The illegal immigrants are eligible for education and health care, but >have not paid into the program, not 1 cent. So the differences you >speak of are only a matter of the function of the program, both types >of programs cost money. The fact that the East Germans are granted >citizenship and the illegals in California are not is unimportant. >Both are elligible for benefits due a citizen and neither have paid >into the program. > Brice, didn't know that you had 20 millions illegals in California. Didn't know that illegals can even go to get social security. Nothing works in the US without a social security number and I know, that illegals don't get that one. So, how sure are you about your statements that they get benefits? Michael * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *