Wirt writes: >I don't believe that anyone denies the value that user groups >had in the past for the development of MPE. If there's any >debate now, it's about what value would a user group have now >that the vendor has pushed you out into the street and locked >the door behind you. My personal opinion is not much in the traditional mpe/hp support space. However, don't let that deter you from continuing to work together under some common umbrella for the purposes of serving each other during times of transition and/or migration. I continue to pay for Interex membership even though it's different than the old days. Maybe an optimist, maybe a fool. Only time will tell :-) duane percox * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *