Shawn, you wrote : > Yea, I bet those people in Iraq really hate us right now. Too right they do. Don't you realise that they can't wait to see the back of the US forces? Not to mention all the "executives" who have moved in to "redistribute" all their oil wealth. -------------------- Saddams supporters hate us, the rest are glad we got rid of the Baathist thugs and are now in the process of trying to govern themselves. They might not love us, but are glad we did what we did. There used to be more pro-US people there, but were eliminated whaen we didn't finish the job after the first war. -------------------- > You know, I'd really love it if the US were to withdraw > all aid to all countries for a couple of years, take > care of ourselves and then you can tell us how much you > hate us. The whole business of "aid" to foreign countries has been used by the US (and other countries) for a long time to sow influence abroad. Don't you understand that the "aid" involved is usually as a result of policies left over from the Cold War when the US and Russians were dividing up the globe by establishing zones of influence or for the sake of achieving another, perhaps military or intelligence objective? ----------------------- Aid usually comes with strings attached, true. ----------------------- > Let's look at some facts about the US: > The United States of America has set more people free than > any other country in the history of mankind. We all know > about World War II, What a stupid comment and one that has been covered before so I wont bother. -------------------- Yes, we all know the USA did not have a thing to do with liberating the world fromt he Nazi's or the Japanese Empire. -------------------- > In Eastern Europe, the policies of Ronald Reagan led to > the freeing of at least 122 million people from Soviet > domination. By saying "freeing", I presume you mean free to participate in the capitalist system that already existed in Western Europe although it was a bit like someone coming to a high-stakes poker table with $.50. Do you really think the US is popular there? ------------------ I think the US is unpopular with those who benefitted from the old way of doing things. Those countries are perfectly free to go back to the leting the Reds manage things. They are better off now, even with their $.50 And I don't think the Poker game analogy is very appropriate. ------------------ > More than 48 million South Koreans remain free because > of American protection. Nearly 23 million Taiwanese remain > free because of American protection. South Korea, along with Taiwan, are the main US footholds in the East and they are obviously worth a lot of defence bucks to retain. Do you really think the US is popular there? --------------------- We should be, since having us there is beter than having North Korea. --------------------- > The state of Israel and five and a half million Jews would > be crushed by its enemies if not for American aid. Don't you think that the support for Israel causes far more hate for the US in the various and many Arab countries? --------------------- No. I think the hate for the USA comes more from terrorist groups fanning the flames of discontent and anti-USA propaganda. --------------------- [snip] > Yea, we are soooo evil. Do you really believe all the stuff you posted above? I think you should take time out to take a trip around the world and sample the actual feeling of people in other countries concerning the United States. However, it might be a shame to burst your bubble. Why should you change the habit of a lifetime and consider what really goes on in countries other than the US? Cheers, John Dunlop * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *