Ah Jeff... how little some people remember, eh? I used to find amusement in the fact that the companies for which I worked couldn't believe what could be done, and how promptly, in the 3K side of the house. They ultimately took for granted the fact that changes/enhancements/etc could be put in place so painlessly. The easier something appears to be, the less it is appreciated. If a system doesn't crash regularly, it can't be trying to actually do something. If it isn't a huge budget item, it's not worth much.... And yet, we still have executables running like clockwork, though the source long since disappeared in the mists of time (and the death of the person who wrote it long ago). Preserve the customer's investment... keep the trains running... * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *