On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:26:44 -0500, Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Michael Levy wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:19:34 -0500 Reef Fish wrote: >>>Jeff, >>>I must formally ask you to send a copy of my post asking Chuck Hopf >>>(Co-Manager) to reveal the identity of the Robert Lung forger, for >>>REASONS I detailed, and ask for Chuck's explanation of WHY he chooses >>>to conceal the identity of said Robert Lung. >> Hey Bob why not do your own research.. looking at his headers >> Received: from [68.232.180.104] >> by web40413.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; >> Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:44:03 PST >> >> the post originates from IP # 68.232.180.104 Thanks Michael. Perhaps this will flush the forger out, since Chuck Hopf is still stone-walling the identity of Robert Lung. I did get THIS far. But keep in mind that I am not the geek type, and I am certainly an ignoramous in the forgery business. To put things into perspective, there was a case of a Jesus in Scuba-L, who not only accused me of forgery (but the forger was Man enough to have posted a confession of why HE did what Jesus accused me of doing), but caused enough disruption in Scuba-L to have the unprecedented (and never again, and never will) cooperation of a TEAM of geeks (Jeff Kell, Nick Simicich, Carl Heinzl) and one expert forger Hugh Huntzinger to track Jesus down. They found out that he was a BIG WIG GEEK in the country Colombia, but was too clever to leave enough fingerprints to be be caught in the scenes of his crimes. All *I* could do was to provide the detail headers of the emails he sent ME personally. >> which is in Pittsburgh on adelphia.net. you got one step farther than I did. Jeff Kell did teach me (quite some time ago) to use samspades.org to track or determine the ID of the IP from which my various internet security software were reporting hackers trying, HUNDERDS of times in one case, to break into my PC. I tried samspades.org on the IP address I had, and got NOTHING. On re-trying it on 68.232.180.104 this morning, I DID get: 68.232.180.104 = [ 68-232-180-104.pittpa.adelphia.net ] OrgName: Adelphia Cable Communications OrgID: ADEL Address: 1 North Main Street City: Coudersport StateProv: PA PostalCode: 16915 Country: US NetRange: 68.232.0.0 - 68.235.255.255 CIDR: 68.232.0.0/14 NetName: ADELPHIA-CABLE-6 NetHandle: NET-68-232-0-0-1 Parent: NET-68-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.ADELPHIA.NET NameServer: NS2.ADELPHIA.NET Comment: RegDate: 2003-06-26 Updated: 2003-08-28 AbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN AbuseName: Internet Policy Enforcement AbusePhone: 1-866-473-2909 AbuseEmail: [log in to unmask] TechHandle: CKI8-ARIN TechName: Kio Carolyn TechPhone: 1-888-512-5111 TechEmail: [log in to unmask] OrgAbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Internet Policy Enforcement OrgAbusePhone: 1-866-473-2909 OrgAbuseEmail: [log in to unmask] OrgTechHandle: CKI8-ARIN OrgTechName: Kio Carolyn OrgTechPhone: 1-888-512-5111 OrgTechEmail: [log in to unmask] CustName: Adelphia Address: 1 North Main Street City: Couderport StateProv: PA PostalCode: 16915 Country: US RegDate: 2003-12-10 Updated: 2003-12-10 NetRange: 68.232.176.0 - 68.232.191.255 CIDR: 68.232.176.0/20 NetName: 682321760-Z8 NetHandle: NET-68-232-176-0-1 Parent: NET-68-232-0-0-1 NetType: Reassigned Comment: RegDate: 2003-12-10 Updated: 2003-12-10 AbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN AbuseName: Internet Policy Enforcement AbusePhone: 1-866-473-2909 AbuseEmail: [log in to unmask] TechHandle: CKI8-ARIN TechName: Kio Carolyn TechPhone: 1-888-512-5111 TechEmail: [log in to unmask] OrgAbuseHandle: IPE-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Internet Policy Enforcement OrgAbusePhone: 1-866-473-2909 OrgAbuseEmail: [log in to unmask] OrgTechHandle: CKI8-ARIN OrgTechName: Kio Carolyn OrgTechPhone: 1-888-512-5111 OrgTechEmail: [log in to unmask] THAT info at least gives me the addresses to report the abuse! > >The full headers aren't kept in the archives, but if you have the >originals, then yes, you can narrow it down considerably. Well, Jeff, I DO have the full headers of the PRIVATE email he sent to my [log in to unmask] address, which was forwarded to my clemson.edu address: Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from CLEMSON.EDU ([unix socket]) by mail (Cyrus v2.1.12) with LMTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:49:47 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com (mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.86.55]) by CLEMSON.EDU (8.12.8p1-20030924/8.12.8) with SMTP id i222njvu029784 for <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com for [log in to unmask]; Mar 1 18:48:31 2004 -0800 X-Yahoo-Forwarded: from [log in to unmask] to [log in to unmask] Received: from 66.218.78.109 (HELO web40412.mail.yahoo.com) (66.218.78.109) by mta139.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from [68.232.180.104] by web40412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:48:31 PST Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Lung <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [SCUBA-SE] Can I Marry My Dog? To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii =================================================== Note that it was from the same IP he used to post in Scuba-SE Received: from [68.232.180.104] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:48:31 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Lung <[log in to unmask]> >Jeff Thanks Michael (Levy) and Jeff. I leave it to your able hands to find out who this Robert Lung is, since you (Jeff) have MUCH more info than I regarding the SE subscribers who used that IP in posting NON-forgeries. However, it is KNOWN that this forger has NOT posted anything in his REAL name in Scuba-SE for quite a while. I STILL like to know Chuck Hopf's REASON for concealing the true identity of this forger. I think we're much closer now to flusing out the ID of this cowardly scoundrel. That's ALL the info I have on this Robert Lung. -- Bob.