A side issue - we are testing block mode screen handling using reflections telnetting to a HP UX N series - works fine. IIRC, there is no VT-mgr on hp UX right? So if this works over telnet to UX, why wont block mode work over telnet to the 3000? Our experience is it just hangs, the reads dont complete or something. Anybody else been down here already? Telnet is visibly faster connection than VT-MGR, and we would love to use it, but it doesn't work for us. QCterm is close, but doesn't read the fields correctly last I tried it -- really haven't had the time to test it properly since updated recently. IIRC, it only reads the data after cursor position in first block field...despite repositioning cursor and sending Esc-d. TIA, jp * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *