Denys, you'll never get it. The reason for the critizism is and always was: we were told lies about the reason to go to war. We were told about support of terrorists and Al-Kaida. we were told about huge arsenals of WMD (biological, chemical and nuclear) we were told about the threat of an attack on Europe and/or the US. Now the real reason was to liberate the Iraqui and even Afghan people. Now, why was there a huge support for the invasion/attack on Afghanistan and much less support on Iraq? After over 2 years in Afghanistan still no OBL but the Taliban are making a comeback. The farmers are back to planting/harvesting Opium and haschisch. Only Kabul seems halfway secure. Is that what the goals where about? Is that now the truth or what will we be told in 6-9 month? Shall we just praise the leader and follow him blindly and without questioning if he doesn't provide answers and/or proof? Still waiting on the truth or to hear a true word from a politician. Michael On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:25:01 -0600, Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200312300000.asp > > >Denys > >-----Original Message----- >From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On >Behalf Of Fred White >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:30 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Improved Security? > >On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 08:46 PM, Denys Beauchemin wrote: > >> Denys (Proud to be close-minded and biased.) > >Congratulations. One should take pride in one's accomplishments. > >FW > >"We are in the process of doing things in defense of our society which >may very well produce a society which is not worth defending." - John >LeCarre > >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * > >* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * >* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *